Had a conversation recently with a ''born again'' type
(First conversation with a real life religionist in a while tbh....)
Thankfully only lasted a few minutes (felt like hours...but theres always one)
The usual subject of morals come from.
Atheists have no morals apparently. Or at least no OBJECTIVE morals without God.
I asked whose God?
Allah? Jehovah? Christ? Dionysius? etc.
I then asked where does God (In whatever way you view him/it/her) get THEIR morals from?
Conversation then petered out. (I was late for work anyway so no great loss)
I was in no way provoking an arguement, simply following through a logical discussion with a
question.
If humans need God's guidence to be moral, then where does God get his guidence from?
We've made god so his morality comes from us. A bigot will believe in a bigoted god and a liberal will project his own liberal views on the god he believes in.
The Bible goes on to say in this fiftieth psalm: “You imagined that I would positively become like you. I am going to reprove you, and I will set things in order before your eyes. Understand this, please, you forgetters of God, that I may not tear you to pieces without there being any deliverer.”—Ps. 50:21, 22.
So one day your day will be up.
There's an opinion among some of the religious that the travails and torments of this life temper the soul and prepare it for its eventual return to paradise.
"Hail Holy Queen mother of mercy. Hail our life, our sweetness and our hope.
To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs mourning and weeping in this valley of tears...
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