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No one has gone away from your post, diddly. There are a lot of over 70 BAME people living in the UK. If they are part of a household where people have more freedom, they would, if the figures are correct, be at even greater risk.
If you look at figures its actually more BAME (whatever that means) under 70 's that have died from CV-19
I know, but that doesn’t mean the over 70s are any less vulnerable.
It doesn't mean they are more vulnerable either though does it ? If you look at the statistics, most if not all deaths of over 70 year olds were of patients with underlying conditions ( including obesity). A healthy 70 year old - and I know plenty who walk, bike, even horse ride regularly - probably has a better chance of surviving the virus than a 20 stone 40 year old that smokes. This is why an age limit is ridiculous.
BAME! I wanna live forever........
Douglas you are on form today -have you had your Weetabix ? :-)
No it doesn’t. But people over 70 are more likely to have underlying conditions.
If you look at the figures, it’s men in general who are the most vulnerable and who are more likely to die:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/coronavirus-uk-over-70-of-critical-care-patients-are-men

Maybe men should be the ones being shielded?

(Should get some interesting replies)
Douglas! See me after school ;-)

Obesity played a part in most of the virus deaths of patients under 70. This was mentioned yesterday at the Coronavirus update 10 Downing St. Therefore should all fat men be shielding? or weighed before they are let out? No, people have to be able to decide their own risk.
This can't go on indefinitely. Eventually people are going to have to make their own decisions and take responsibility for themselves.
yes zacs I saw that on FB yesterday - maybe women should be allowed out and men should stay at home baking banana bread and clapping
That’s virtually what I’m doing, bednobs.
Clapping and banana bread, every septuagenarian should do this but not at the same time ( could get messy) :0)))))
Ohh and I like the 3Ts n all , I like second guessing his rhyming slang
Oops wrang fred^
Bobbs//Clapping and banana bread, //
Any advice for the octogenarians?
Yes, being an Octogenarian gives you a passport to do what you want with ya banana , haha
//You could argue the current lockdown discriminates on disability grounds in that tighter measures (shielding) apply to those with diabetes, heart problems, dementia, etc.//

We need to me a bit careful between "advice" and legislation. There is nothing in the legislation which differentiates between any group. The "do not leave home without a reasonable excuse" section applies to everybody. However, vulnerable groups (which includes the over 70s) have been advised to take extra precautions.

It is not clear from the Grauniad article what is being proposed. It mentions "beefing up protection" (whatever that might mean) for the over 70s and other vulnerable groups. It then goes on to mention a number of options that are being discussed. They add to the number of "cigarette packet" ideas that have been discussed.

Over 70s are not any more susceptible to contracting the virus. They are more likely to suffer serious symptoms or die if they do. Similarly they are no more likely to pass it on to anybody else. The idea of the "lockdown" is to slow the spread of the disease and so avoid the NHS being overwhelmed. That has, apparently, been achieved. The "Nightingale" hospitals in London and Birmingham are being mothballed (although for some reason one in the North-East is about to be commissioned).

My view is that if (say) the current legislation (S6 of the Health Protection (Coronavirus)) regulations are eased for those under 70 but maintained for those over that age there will be widespread ructions. As I have said before, the country is going to have to learn to live with the virus and not labour under the misapprehension that it can be contained. Part of that learning is not to discriminate against people simply on the basis of their age.
‘ Over 70s are not any more susceptible to contracting the virus’

That’s not proven, and in fact may be completely wrong:
https://www.nhs.uk/news/older-people/immune-systems-and-ageing/
That article seems to concentrate on the body's reaction once the virus has invaded, Zacs. I accept that age affects that reaction (though I don't believe anybody currently believes older people are likely to see less severe symptoms than the young). The lockdown is aimed at preventing spread and that is not age-dependent. What happens after the spread has occurred is a different matter.

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