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Five Weeks Of Lies

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teacake44 | 21:39 Fri 17th Apr 2020 | News
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For five weeks now Matt Hancock has insisted that there wasn't a shortage of PPE, nearly every hospital and care home in the country was saying there was, he also insisted that it was a logistical problem only, and that was with 20 thousand army personal drivers ready to deliver. When the army joined us, we were told, this is what the army are brilliant at ( logistics ) ?

Today he says he wished he had a magic wand to produce PPE. When will Mr Hancock face up to the fact that the UK was oh so slow off the starting block, and the cost of that, was peoples lives, especially NHS lives. When will he start telling the truth, ( never).

They've also been telling us that we don't need to wear a face mask,(now their thinking about it), but waiting for the science to tell them. Common sense tells me that face masks can help stop the spread of the virus, if they didn't, then the rest of the world wouldn't be wearing them, or nurses wearing them in hospital or care homes, ( when they can get them) We all know about the top of the range mask that they need to wear in ITC, but the rest of the nurses are wearing bog standard face masks.

There are now UK manufactures pulling out all the stops to produce PPE, they say they have be ignored by Matt Hancock for weeks now, even after making it known to him that they could make what was required. How many more lives need to be lost before they supply the nation with face masks like every other country is doing.

I've changed my mind about Mr Hancock,( give someone a chance to get sorted,) he's had five weeks, and all we've had is five weeks of lies. Whatever advice he or the government give out, I for one will take with a pinch of salt, and do my own thing.

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teacake is definitely a gloom and doom merchant, as I have opined before, BUT I don't like Matt Hancock and don't think he's up to the job, so I agree with him here (for a change).
08:48 Sat 18th Apr 2020
I mean, like, isn't "hundreds of thousands of people are already dead" enough to be going on with? Yes I recognise that people die all the time etc, but I'm not going to apologise for focusing on the human cost when that's what should be most important here.
Maybe we should realise the debt we owe the PM.

If he, as a wealthy, entitled individual hadn't got himself a right good dose we'd all be down the pub by now, infecting like Typhoid Mary.

We're safer if the powerful know there's no real defence for them too.
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Having had a quick flick through the posts, I have to give top marks for the most hilarious / ridiculous statement of all time, that being of deskdiary at 17.49,( is that, the death rate is low.)

Em, 15,500 deaths in hospital, and 7,000 in care homes, that the government don't want to mention, total 22,500 deaths in less than 2 months, and the virus is only just got going. Has for some of the other comments wait and see what the real out come is going to be, and not just people loosing their lives, joke if you wish.
^^^is it though?

Is the death of the old, as sad as it is, more important than the economy?

I would say it is not.

People will very quickly forget their largesse if/when they are personally affected, lose their jobs and can’t pay their mortgages/rent.
You clearly don’t understand percentages Teacake. I’d explain it to you if I could be arsed.
I propose that we solve the problem by culling everybody over 70. That way the rest of us can just get on with our lives. Problem solved.
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21.46 You clearly don't understand high or low and that's simple, and that's only taking the UK figures for the first 2 months, and no mention of home deaths.
Like it or not, and as mercenary as it sounds, we are now at the point where the economy is more important.

It just is.
Aww Jim60, can I be reprieved, I promise I’ll behave :0/
Tell that to your parents or grandparents, deskdiary
douglas, after long consideration I've decided not to drink with prime ministers any more. I know this isn't a foolproof prophylactic, but if I combine it with a face mask I should be A-OK.
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And that's just what the virus is waiting for, the foolish human to poke his or her nose out the door to fill their wallet, and that's why the virus will get a lot worse than what your seeing now. And for all the ones that think I'm talking rubbish, I will get back to you in 2 months time. Sit on the fence, and look the other way, but its not going away, until they have a vaccine. Like it or lump it.
Deskdiary and teacake arguing has to be an all time AB low. It’s like watching two people arguing who has the best dog.
I have neither Cloverjo, both my parents died when I was in my teens, but you’ve given an emotional response, which isn’t helpful.

The vast majority of the healthy infected will survive. The numbers don’t lie.

The hard of thinking like teacake don’t possess the foresight to understand that the damage to the economy will cause far more damage to people than the virus ever will.
The flaw in your argument is that it isn't a binary choice. If we all go back to work tomorrow and all (almost all) end up sick, and many end up dead, the "economy" will still suffer and indeed at a greater level than anything a short to medium-term lockdown would achieve. Never mind that a health service overwhelmed by Covid-19 cases would be hard-pressed to deal with anything else. As it is resources are stretched, but they are not stretched to breaking point.

I appreciate that this is difficult for the hard-of-thinking to grasp, but you can't expect the global economy to fail to notice if millions of people more than expected end up dead and hundreds of millions seriously ill. There is no choice here. Take the hit now, painful as it undoubtedly will be.
TC, you can be very ent at times and I like that but please may I gave you some advice here?
You remind me if me 11 years ago when AB was a much rougher ride, now I tend not to get involved in any squabbles on here because there are some on here who like to see your BP go up ( colloquially speaking) I find much easier to compile a mental list and just don’t respond to those who you think are winding you up, obviously we have different detractors, I might get on with those you don’t but that’s life and ask yourself “ Would I sit in a pub with this person? If the answer is an emphatic NO, well there you have your answer :0)
/ entertaining//
I’m pretty sure ZM is trying to provoke a bromance with me - he’s following me around like a lovesick teen and negging. It’s like pulling the ponytail in the playground of the girl you fancied at primary school.

Hate to break it to him, but I’m happily married.
//Deskdiary and teacake arguing has to be an all time AB low. It’s like watching two people arguing who has the best dog.//

When in reality, they each only have hamsters.
Desk, I prefer my women with more than an ounce of intelligence. I’m afraid you’re underweight.

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